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      <description>Well, that took a couple of hours, but I think I got all of the spam from the past few...</description>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #1 from Lila</title>
         <description>comment from Lila on  9.Apr.21</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whew, thanks! Pour yourself a cold one of whatever you like to drink!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April  9, 2021  8:54 PM by Lila&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #2 from Tom Whitmore</title>
         <description>comment from Tom Whitmore on  9.Apr.21</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Avram. It feels much cleaner here now! Still, it did send me back to some pretty wonderful threads.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April  9, 2021 10:10 PM by Tom Whitmore&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #3 from Jeremy Leader</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hooray! Much thanks, Avram.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 10, 2021 12:45 AM by Jeremy Leader&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #4 from David Goldfarb</title>
         <description>comment from David Goldfarb on 10.Apr.21</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful! Excellent, thank you for your efforts.</p>

<p>...but I can't help noticing that there's no discussion of the long-term issue. The community around these parts isn't what it once was, but does still exist. It has needs, and those needs aren't being met.</p>

<p>I don't know if you caught up with the open thread, Avram; I suspect not. Over there I volunteered to take on the position of spam whacker. That offer still stands.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 10, 2021  1:49 AM by David Goldfarb&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #5 from Elaine</title>
         <description>comment from Elaine on 10.Apr.21</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved seeing this pop up in my feed reader this morning. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 10, 2021  8:52 AM by Elaine&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #6 from stefan jones</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Avram!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 10, 2021 11:07 AM by stefan jones&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #7 from John A Arkansawyer</title>
         <description>comment from John A Arkansawyer on 10.Apr.21</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A thankless task! And yet we all thank you.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 10, 2021 11:57 AM by John A Arkansawyer&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #8 from TomB</title>
         <description>comment from TomB on 10.Apr.21</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Avram, for doing this herculean task. The original story was diverting. This was just a lot of work. But much appreciated. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 10, 2021  2:39 PM by TomB&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #9 from P J Evans</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Avram!<br />
So much of it was from like four sites. (I reported the ones with Twitter and Youtube URLs to Twitter and Youtube.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 10, 2021  3:05 PM by P J Evans&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #10 from xeger</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Avram!</p>

<p>David Goldfarb @ 4 ... Please stop pushing so hard to get keys.  I can't speak for other folks, but you're certainly making me uncomfortable and wary.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 10, 2021 11:55 PM by xeger&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #11 from dcb</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Avram: thank you! A large and tedious task - and much appreciated.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 11, 2021  3:38 PM by dcb&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #12 from David Goldfarb</title>
         <description>comment from David Goldfarb on 11.Apr.21</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>xeger: Like I said in the open thread, I don't care that much about who has them, so long as it's <em>somebody</em> who's <em>here</em>. I am sorry for causing you discomfort: I debated with myself about whether to speak up about it on this thread, and decided that it was unlikely that anyone concerned had read the discussion in the open thread.</p>

<p>Not that it seems to be mattering, since they aren't reading this thread either.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 11, 2021  6:22 PM by David Goldfarb&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #13 from dcb</title>
         <description>comment from dcb on 12.Apr.21</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Goldfarb @12: I can see how some people might misinterpret your offers, but I for one appreciated your willingness to step up if you could be given the tools to do so.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 12, 2021  5:17 AM by dcb&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #14 from Xopher Halftongue</title>
         <description>comment from Xopher Halftongue on 12.Apr.21</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Avram!</p>

<p>David, I did appreciate your offer to help. I was trying to let you know how the tone was coming across, but I wound up missing my aimed-for tone myself. Apologies.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 12, 2021 11:10 AM by Xopher Halftongue&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #15 from David Goldfarb</title>
         <description>comment from David Goldfarb on 12.Apr.21</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No apology needed, Xopher. This all involves power (if power in a very small pond indeed) and power always touches social status; of course it's fraught.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 12, 2021  5:38 PM by David Goldfarb&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #16 from Xopher Halftongue</title>
         <description>comment from Xopher Halftongue on 13.Apr.21</description>
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	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 13, 2021  1:02 PM by Xopher Halftongue&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #17 from SunflowerP</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you very much indeed, Avram!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 17, 2021  2:36 AM by SunflowerP&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #18 from Christian Severin</title>
         <description>comment from Christian Severin on 19.Apr.21</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"<em>a long stream-of-consciousness-style Joyce parody about Tumblr, dating sites, and hormone supplements</em>"  <br />
  <br />
Did anyone else think of Mike Ford just there?<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 19, 2021  7:24 AM by Christian Severin&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #19 from TexAnne</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Avram! But shouldn't there be more than two posts visible?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 19, 2021  8:50 AM by TexAnne&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #20 from David Goldfarb</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A guess: the front page displays only posts from the last year, and that's why there are just two.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 19, 2021 11:30 AM by David Goldfarb&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #21 from P J Evans</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>18<br />
Yes - and I also think that when I'm reading people riffing on files, scrolls, and pixels over at File770.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 19, 2021 12:38 PM by P J Evans&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #22 from xeger</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Goldfarb @ 12 ...<br />
<i>xeger: Like I said in the open thread, I don't care that much about who has them, so long as it's somebody who's here. I am sorry for causing you discomfort: </i></p>

<p>Thank you.  It was just ... one thing too many, if that makes any sense?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 19, 2021 10:33 PM by xeger&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #23 from John M. Burt</title>
         <description>comment from John M. Burt on  2.May.21</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm reminded of when my three Ethiopian-born children* were first learning English, and I pondered the question of what "English fluency" really means. One thought I had was, "You aren't truly fluent in English unless you know what the Sword in the Stone was, and what the Virgin Birth of Christ was."<br />
[I didn't insist that you know that the Sword in the Stone wasn't Excalibur, or that Mary, not Jesus, was the Immaculate Conception - I was looking for fluency here, not mastery.]<br />
I also thought "You need to know when a task is Sisyphean, and when it is merely Augean."</p>

<p>Winnowing the spam out of open threads is, of course, both.</p>

<p>*Right now, I'm sitting across from the hospital bed where one of them is recovering from a hit-and-run incident. That's the bad news. The good news is, now we know for certain he's alive - he'd been out of touch with the family for almost three years, because he is a sub-functional schizophrenic when not medicated. He still isn't quite sufficiently recovered for me to be willing to tell him that his mother has died.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  2, 2021  8:52 PM by John M. Burt&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #24 from P J Evans</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>23<br />
Wishing the best for your kid, because it's hard. (I still haven't met my nephew from Ethiopia.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  2, 2021  9:06 PM by P J Evans&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #25 from Cassy B.</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@23, best wishes. I have an old friend who is sub-functional schizophrenic who often stops taking his meds because (he says) the meds interfere with his chess game (he can't quite understand that full-blown episodes interfere with his ability to play chess even more). Every so often he just wanders off and we find out he's been living on the streets for months.</p>

<p>It's hard. My genuine sympathies.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted May  2, 2021 11:21 PM by Cassy B.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Cleaning the Augean database -- comment #26 from Jacque</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>John M. Burt @23:</b> <i>"You need to know when a task is Sisyphean, and when it is merely Augean."</i></p>

<p>Thank you for the sincere belly-laugh!</p>

<p>Also: good heavens! Wishing you the best!</p>]]>
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