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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #1 from Soon Lee</title>
         <description>comment from Soon Lee on 27.Jan.16</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's lovely abi!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 27, 2016  5:36 PM by Soon Lee&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #2 from Cadbury Moose</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply Superb!</p>

<p>(This Moose has spent an entire day (with a foul cold) trying to make head or tail of some product documentation that would be better off used for lighting fires.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 27, 2016  5:38 PM by Cadbury Moose&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #3 from Mary Aileen</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>::applause::</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 27, 2016  5:40 PM by Mary Aileen&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #4 from KeithS</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear hear! This right here is a thing of beauty.</p>

<p>If I thought it would help the quality of documentation I usually have to deal with, I'd start a religion based on it and hand it out on street corners.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 27, 2016  5:52 PM by KeithS&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #5 from Allan Beatty</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's great.</p>

<p>I'm afraid it's more aspirational than descriptive of the world I live in.</p>

<p>Hmm, I should print this out and take it to work, because I write a fair amount of documentation myself.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 27, 2016  7:03 PM by Allan Beatty&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #6 from Mary Jean</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good documentation is indeed a boon. Just today there was an item in my local paper from someone who had purchased a solar charger and found this as the last sentence of the instructions:<br />
“We reserve all the rights for the final explanation.”</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 27, 2016  7:10 PM by Mary Jean&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #7 from Jude</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is going up in my cube at work, and will also be posted on the company Slack.  With appropriate attribution, of course, because I am married to an academic. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 27, 2016  7:33 PM by Jude&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #8 from Edmund Schweppe</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's splendid, Abi. Brava!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 27, 2016  7:43 PM by Edmund Schweppe&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #9 from Alex R.</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abi, you are speaking in tongues and handling snakes and I can feel the power of the Lord Our Documenter in your words, so I'm just gonna sit back and hum while you preach it.</p>

<p>Amen! Hallelujah!</p>

<p>Praise The Lord!</p>

<p>...um. Maybe a couple additions:</p>

<p>7.) <i>It is not long-winded; it useth not interminable constructions when simple words can fully express its ideas.</i></p>

<p>8.) <i>It is well-edited and reads not like it was composed by committee.</i></p>

<p>9.) <i>It is easily available in non-proprietary formats so I may print it on ordinary paper.</i></p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 27, 2016  8:22 PM by Alex R.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #10 from David Goldfarb</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Allan Beatty@5: That's quite precisely what I was thinking myself.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 27, 2016  8:59 PM by David Goldfarb&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #11 from Stefan Jones</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'd like to post that at work, but I'm not sure some folks would take that wrong.<br />
* * *<br />
I joined (um, was thrust into) a new product group last fall. There is a LOT of not-written-down information. I've spent my slack time updating Wiki entries and writing new ones. Command line usage for utilities, procedures with examples for using them, test procedures.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 27, 2016  9:16 PM by Stefan Jones&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #12 from Clifton</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, not 10 minutes ago I just pressed (again) for us to put some effort into bringing our manual up to date - after my boss bitched at me about how he doesn't think any customers are using one of the new features he implemented last year - and got the answer "Well I don't think anybody would read the manual anyway." </p>

<p>They'd be fools to in this case - it's 4 years out of date and describes nothing implemented in that time, and little or nothing of relevance to a current-day user. To him, that is apparently reason to never update it again.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 27, 2016  9:53 PM by Clifton&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #13 from BravoLimaPoppa</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That's wonderful! I think I'll print it up for work. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 27, 2016 10:02 PM by BravoLimaPoppa&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #14 from Stefan Jones</title>
         <description>comment from Stefan Jones on 27.Jan.16</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my last project (I'm a QA folk) I drew up a list of documentation required. The developers were a research group that hadn't, for the most part, ever delivered a product for actual deployment before:</p>

<p>Guide for developers to set up work environment<br />
Build documentation<br />
Install / configuration documentation<br />
Patch build instructions<br />
Patch install / removal instructions<br />
Upgrade and downgrade instructions<br />
Troubleshooting guide for technical support (e.g., how to find and read logs)<br />
Guides for APIs<br />
Guides for internal testing tools and utilities<br />
Training guides and presentations</p>

<p>None of these, note, are user documentation.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 27, 2016 10:29 PM by Stefan Jones&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #15 from CHip</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love this. But if I were still working I'd be stuck wondering which kind of mistake sending it to the doc group would be, as statistically they might include one Xian.</p>

<p>Cadbury @ 2: It's good enough that it could light fires? I've had pieces for which I wanted to emulate Shaw: "I am in the smallest room in my house. Your doc is before me; shortly it will be behind me."<br />
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;OTOH both of those are at least uses; I'm told Data General's president once showed a supplier that his disk drive wasn't even usable as a boat anchor.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 27, 2016 10:51 PM by CHip&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #16 from Stefan Jones</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I were at liberty to post diagrams of my previous project assignment.</p>

<p>It had . . . many parts.</p>

<p>I was once tasked with bringing to contractors up to speed on it. I took advantage of a whiteboard in a vacant office. I filled <i>all</i> of it. After I turned it into a PowerPoint illustration a VP asked me if he could use it for a presentation.</p>

<p>I'm never going to work on that product again and I'm not sure if it ever saw the light of day, but I could reproduce that diagram from memory.</p>

<p>I love diagrams.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016  1:09 AM by Stefan Jones&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #17 from Dave Bell</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Documentation and Programmers List</p>

<p>1: An Editor is not just the piece of software that lets you type words into it.</p>

<p>2: Not even BASIC is the same language as English.</p>

<p>3: JIRA is a tool to manage programmer's work. It is not a tool for users to report bugs.</p>

<p>4: Diagramming a sentence is orthogonal to determining what it means.</p>

<p>5: Human language <b>is</b> self-modifying code.</p>

<p><br />
Any more?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016  1:51 AM by Dave Bell&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #18 from smofbabe</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, many companies now believe that because their documentation is being delivered online and therefore it can be changed and updated more frequently, there is no need to polish it, and therefore no need for technical editors. I wish this were not the case not only because the quality of product documentation is suffering but also because I suddenly lost my technical editing job of 24 years recently and there aren't very many positions out there...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016  4:02 AM by smofbabe&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #19 from Dave Crisp</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Emailed to the software group at work, who are notoriously bad at updating the specs :(</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016  4:11 AM by Dave Crisp&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #20 from Charlie Stross</title>
         <description>comment from Charlie Stross on 28.Jan.16</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Why don't you just make a video using your phone and upload it to YouTube?" asked the marketing dude who sells the server-side software but only ever reads self-help/business books.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016  8:50 AM by Charlie Stross&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #21 from SamChevre</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oyez! Oyez! Oyez!</p>

<p>(I'm an auditor, constantly attempting to thread the needle between "a well-documented disaster is STILL a disaster" [1] and "If it were broken, how would anyone be able to tell" [2].)</p>

<p>1) Credit to Megan McArdle<br />
2) The correct answers include "because what it's supposed to do is written down"; unacceptable variants include "we haven't noticed any problem", "someone checked it when it was built--I think that was after 1990", and "it's APL--anyone who wants to can just look and see what it is doing".)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016  9:24 AM by SamChevre&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #22 from Stefan Jones</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#20: I've gotten instructions in video form -- captured animated screen shots really -- from developers in other sites on how to perform certain operations. I find this infuriating. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016  9:48 AM by Stefan Jones&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #23 from Victoria</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex R @ #9</p>

<p>Those sound more like commandments.... <br />
10) Thou shall use screen shots where ever possible. </p>

<p>Which leads me to ask what are the hallmarks of really good documentation? 'Cause at my Day Job, I'm having to document business practices as they relate to assorted databases. (...and the business practices keep changing... I choose to be amused by the "This doesn't work so we're changing things" only to go back to the old way "Because the new method works less well than the old method." Lots of new administrators on board.)</p>

<p>It doesn't help that I have to keep explaining that Software A does not have anything at all to do with Software B or Software C, even though they use similiar data sets. Oh, and Softwares B and C kinda-sorta interface with each other, but not really even though they both do two sides of the same work.  </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016  9:48 AM by Victoria&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #24 from Alex R.</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>@ Victoria</b></p>

<p>"...sound like commandments."</p>

<p>Maybe a little. I could probably do a little more work to make them match abi's style, but today is a Honey-Do day, so I'm not going to expend the effort.</p>

<p>I like yours, by the way, though it also sounds like a commandment. Maybe "It useth screenshots, that I am not mislead."</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016 11:11 AM by Alex R.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #25 from Jude</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Formatted up for cube-posting:<br />
<a href="http://judemclaughlin.com/files/The%20Good%20Documentation.pdf" rel="nofollow">The Good Documentation</a></p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016 11:29 AM by Jude&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #26 from Incoherent</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jude @ 25 -- Thank you!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016 11:36 AM by Incoherent&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #27 from Jordin</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it a sign of something bad that I now want to see a software-documentation version of Revelations?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016 12:00 PM by Jordin&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #28 from Alex R.</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Jordin @ 27</b></p>

<p><i>Is it a sign of something bad that I now want to see a software-documentation version of Revelations?</i></p>

<p>No.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016 12:44 PM by Alex R.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #29 from Tom Whitmore</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordin, Alex R: Well, I'd say it is a sign of something bad -- just not bad in Jordin! It's a sign of the state of our Documentation Apocalypse. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016 12:52 PM by Tom Whitmore&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'll be using this in meetings with my fellow sysadmins.  (Assuming that's okay with you, Abi.  Is it?  Attributions will be included, of course!)</p>

<p>Why, oh, why do so few IT professionals really, truly understand the real, actual *need* for documentation!?  Every time I take over a new network, I have to start from scratch and build the documentation up from nothing.  And I always, always, *always* try my absolute best to leave my replacement enough documentation so that they can survive their first week without me.  A luxury I have never, ever been afforded in my entire professional life.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016  1:02 PM by J K Hoffman&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm glad to have contributed to office culture! Thank you, <strong>Jude @25</strong></p>

<p><strong>CHip @15:</strong><br />
I don't know if it would help, but in point of fact Psalm 23 is one of the core texts for my own religious life. That's why I knew it well enough to pastiche it on a deep structural level.</p>

<p>Though not all Xians react the same way...</p>

<p><strong>JK Hoffman @30:</strong><br />
Yes, go ahead and use it (blanket permission, folks, preferably with attribution).</p>

<p>-----<br />
* She was J Paul Getty's secretary and an avid collector of 1940's office doggerel and jokes.  I never met her&mdash;she died the year before I was born&mdash;but I suspect we'd have common ground in this area.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016  1:51 PM by abi&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good documentation deserves more praise than it usually gets.  One of the most useful books I ever read was the (free) Linux manual <a href="http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html.gz" rel="nofollow">Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition</a> by Paul Sheer.  Beautifully clear explanation of how Linux works under the hood, and full coverage of all the command-line tools.  I read it from cover to cover over a weekend.  It's probably a bit outdated now but at the time, it was precisely what I needed.</p>

<p>A really first-rate textbook is a work of art.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016  2:37 PM by Steve with a book&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Applause and laughter in equal measure. Thank you, abi.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016  5:50 PM by Lin Daniel&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave Bell at # 17: At my workplace, Jira is a tool for arguing whether something is a bug or a new feature request.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 28, 2016  7:20 PM by Allan Beatty&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've been working for years with a developer who will loudly, pugnaciously tell you at any opportunity that documentation is a bad thing because it can get out of date and then it'll be wrong and that's worse than never having any. In his opinion, anyone who really wants to know something about the software should just <i>read the source code</i>. (That is, the code proper-- not the <i>comments</i> in the code, since by the same principle, there shouldn't be any. And yes, this is one of those people, very familiar to anyone who's dabbled in functional-style programming, who insists that you shouldn't care about having understandable names for anything in your code, because the data types are all that matter.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 29, 2016 12:42 PM by Hob&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #36 from Cadbury Moose</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hob @ #35</p>

<p>It's a good job he doesn't work for Competitor Acquisitions[1], with their penchant for OCO[2), then.</p>

<p>Cadbury (still with Foul Cold). &ltgrump&gt</p>

<p>[1] More recognisable by their initials.<br />
[2] Object Code Only.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 29, 2016  5:17 PM by Cadbury Moose&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SamChevre @ 21 ...<br />
<i>(I'm an auditor, constantly attempting to thread the needle between "a well-documented disaster is STILL a disaster" [1] and "If it were broken, how would anyone be able to tell" [2].)</i></p>

<p><i>1) Credit to Megan McArdle</i><br />
<i>2) The correct answers include "because what it's supposed to do is written down"; unacceptable variants include "we haven't noticed any problem", "someone checked it when it was built--I think that was after 1990", and "it's APL--anyone who wants to can just look and see what it is doing".)</i></p>

<p>Oh man ... I am -so- going to point our compliance folks at that ... </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 29, 2016  9:29 PM by xeger&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's been a while since I wrote--or documented--any code, but I do remember a couple of principles that stood me in good stead:</p>

<p>A good COBOL paragraph name was a good place marker to help you find WHAT you were looking for. (Yes, even COBOL wanted comments.</p>

<p>In any language, it's helpful to document WHY the code is doing that particular thing.  Yes, any fool can see what is happening, but the why explanation can help reassure you that it still needs to happen.  Or not.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2016  1:50 PM by Barry Newton&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hob@35:Yes, I know that person[type]. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2016 11:42 PM by Steve Halter&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@39: Well, I guess he would tell you that if you know the <i>type</i>, there's nothing else you need to know about the person...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2016  7:55 PM by Hob&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(That's not my own philosophy for dealing with people, just a joke about data types)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2016  7:56 PM by Hob&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there one of these for testing? I need to pass it around in my company. Don't get me wrong, there are plenty of people who know how to test&mdash;they just think it's okay to start testing after deployment.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  3, 2016  7:14 PM by Allan Beatty&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  3, 2016  9:48 PM by Steve Halter&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Is Just To Say</p>

<p>I have not read<br />
the FAQ<br />
that was on<br />
the webpage</p>

<p>and which<br />
you were probably<br />
hoping<br />
I would read</p>

<p>Forgive me<br />
I am impatient<br />
and dumb<br />
and lazy</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  4, 2016  3:57 PM by cleek&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This Is Just To Say</p>

<p>I *have* read<br />
the FAQ<br />
that was on<br />
the webpage</p>

<p>and which<br />
you were probably<br />
hoping<br />
would answer my question.</p>

<p>Forgive me,<br />
it did not.<br />
FAQs seldom do.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  4, 2016  4:07 PM by Mary Aileen&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #46 from Lee</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Aileen, #45: NO SHIT. Also, when you can't find the answer to your question on the website and you've gotten desperate enough to call, the phone menu only provides the SAME information that's on the website, and takes 7 minutes to get to an option that will let you reach an actual human being who might be able to address your problem. <br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  4, 2016  4:32 PM by Lee&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee (46): And, if you're calling Verizon*, the on-hold message suggests trying their website. Excuse me, if your website had the information <i>I wouldn't be wasting my time on hold!</i> (Not that I'm still bitter, or anything.)</p>

<p>*Heaven help you, because they won't.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  4, 2016  4:57 PM by Mary Aileen&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>44 v 45: the eternal schism between developers and users will never be bridged.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  4, 2016  6:03 PM by cleek&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cleek (48): Truer words were never spoken.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  4, 2016  6:48 PM by Mary Aileen&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, "Emailing the devs (at, say, bugs@companyname.com) is NOT a bug-reporting interface."</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  4, 2016  7:26 PM by Elliott Mason&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Aileen @ 47: I think that's in the same category as "please listen to the options as our menus have changed" (years ago); it might save them a tiny slice of people time (through making people who don't think to look do so, or not having to forward a misdirected call) and the sound bits cost nothing, so it's reasonable to do -- never mind how much it annoys the 99+%.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  4, 2016  7:52 PM by CHip&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was an excellent cartoon on documentation (the useless sort), which I had on my cube wall and lost in a move.  I think it was xkcd, but have looked for it multiple times.</p>

<p>The visual I remember was a bridge, with a sign saying "This is Bridge".</p>

<p>Does anyone know what it was/where i could find it?</p>]]>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well-intentioned documentation habit that drives me bugfuck:</p>

<p>Wiki pages that are nothing but oddly indented bulleted lists.</p>

<p>Bullet points in lieu of paragraphs, section headings, and etcetera. </p>

<p>Ran into one the other day that was a bulleted list entirely formatted as Heading 3.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  5, 2016 10:04 AM by Stefan Jones&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SamChevre @52 <em>The visual I remember was a bridge, with a sign saying "This is Bridge".</em></p>

<p>I don't have that cartoon (though I'd like to) but it reminds me of a joke between my husband and me that dates back more than 30 years. I think it was one of his classmates or early coworkers and not one of mine whose had inserted a comment in a program saying "This section iterates."</p>

<p>Well, yeah. That's an examplar of "true but not helpful."</p>

<p>Also, once upon a time long ago, some coworkers and I were asked to create some problems/questions for a programming class. There were the usual things like a loop that was one-off in counting whatever it was supposed to count, but my fiendish favorite was a short piece of code that included a snippet that didn't quite do what the comment said it did. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  5, 2016 10:36 AM by OtterB&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mary Aileen @ 44/45:</p>

<p>Both of those are very true, but I usually fall into 45 rather than 44.</p>

<p>SamChevre @ 52:</p>

<p>It appears to be an <a href="http://abstrusegoose.com/432" rel="nofollow">Abstruse Goose cartoon</a>, and I'm not sure whether I found it funny or all too true.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  5, 2016  1:32 PM by KeithS&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KeithS @ 55</p>

<p>Yes, that's it. THANK YOU!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  5, 2016  2:48 PM by SamChevre&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KeithS, #55: Both, perhaps? </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  5, 2016  6:58 PM by Lee&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #58 from Wyn</title>
         <description>comment from Wyn on 18.Feb.16</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you thank you Abi! I love it. On top of it being hilarious, I found it at just the right time. Tonight I have a technical speech which was a bit short and needed a hook. But now I have this fabulous quote to patch into the opening...<br />
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	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 18, 2016  4:05 PM by Wyn&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2016 16:05:42 -0500</pubDate>
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         <title>The Good Documentation -- comment #59 from abi</title>
         <description>comment from abi on 18.Feb.16</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Wyn @58:</strong></p>

<p>Win! (as it were)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February 18, 2016  4:07 PM by abi&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2016 16:07:17 -0500</pubDate>
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