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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #1 from Mishalak</title>
         <description>comment from Mishalak on  6.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would also like to know why the disparity exists or at least have more information so a better guess can be made. </p>

<p>I know that with MileHiCon in Denver readings are assigned on the basis of a mass emailing to all all authors potentially showing up asking them along with all the other panel preferences if they would like to do a reading. So the ratio is dependent on who is coming to the convention, who gets back to programing with a preference, who wants to do a reading, and finally on the basis of space. Usually there are more authors than reading slots and when the last few are being assigined it is on a basis of who is available, who wants to take those last less favorable times, and who is more famous-ish. I got handed the task of making the final cut this year and I used a combination of Goodreads and Amazon to decide between the smallest of the small press people left at the end. </p>

<p>I probably should have figured out the female to male ratio, but I did not because it just did not occur to me. I think we had about 40 reading slots. But that is an off the top of my head guess. At least with those I was making a cut on I think it was even numbers of females and males who got a reading. For the rest I have no idea. Not that I am in any way in charge of programing, I just help out.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November  6, 2013  8:04 PM by Mishalak&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #2 from Natalie L.</title>
         <description>comment from Natalie L. on  6.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to be absolutely clear: I emailed the Philcon chair the full text of my post twelve hours before I posted last week in order to give them a chance to comment; as my home con, I want them to succeed and to do well. I have yet to receive a response or even an acknowledgement from them that they received my email. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November  6, 2013  8:34 PM by Natalie L.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #3 from johnofjack</title>
         <description>comment from johnofjack on  6.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Natalie: ugh.  That doesn't bode well, and it's also unprofessional that they didn't even acknowledge your email.  At the very least they should have sent an email thanking you for reporting it and letting you know that they're looking into it--while, of course, they actually <em>do</em> look into it, in good faith, and come up with a reasonable course of action.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November  6, 2013 10:08 PM by johnofjack&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #4 from Lee</title>
         <description>comment from Lee on  6.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been tasked with the goal of coming up with a harassment policy for my local con. What I'd like to do is look at a bunch of existing policies (so as not to waste time re-inventing the wheel), select the three that I think would best fit our circumstances, and present them for a vote. We're a small con (less than 500 people) and we don't have enough folks on staff to have a dedicated security force. Can anyone point me in the direction of good existing policies for a con of this size? <br />
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	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November  6, 2013 11:15 PM by Lee&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #5 from Jim Macdonald</title>
         <description>comment from Jim Macdonald on  6.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the <a href="http://viableparadise.net/viable-paradise/viable-paradise-harassment-policy/" rel="nofollow">harassment policy of Viable Paradise</a>. About forty people on-site for a week.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November  6, 2013 11:44 PM by Jim Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #6 from jonesnori/Lenore Jean Jones</title>
         <description>comment from jonesnori/Lenore Jean Jones on  7.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are <a href="http://wiscon.info/rules.php" rel="nofollow">WisCon's</a>.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November  7, 2013  1:56 AM by jonesnori/Lenore Jean Jones&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #7 from jonesnori/Lenore Jean Jones has been gnomed</title>
         <description>comment from jonesnori/Lenore Jean Jones has been gnomed on  7.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guylian seashell chocolates?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November  7, 2013  1:57 AM by jonesnori/Lenore Jean Jones has been gnomed&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #8 from individ-ewe-al</title>
         <description>comment from individ-ewe-al on  7.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Lee</strong> @4: GeekFeminism has some useful material on <a href="http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Conference_anti-harassment/Policy" rel="nofollow">harassment policies</a>. I don't think the discussion over there assumes you have a huge con with dedicated security. It's probably not perfect for what you want, but it's a good place to start looking for examples and discussion.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November  7, 2013 10:37 AM by individ-ewe-al&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #9 from John A Arkansawyer</title>
         <description>comment from John A Arkansawyer on  7.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted this in the open thread, but perhaps it's more appropriate here: <a href="http://learn-to-search.com/#slide-0" rel="nofollow">Learn to Search!</a></p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November  7, 2013 10:49 AM by John A Arkansawyer&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #10 from Cassy B.</title>
         <description>comment from Cassy B. on  7.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lee @4, Here is <a href="http://www.isfic.org/harassment.asp" rel="nofollow">Windycon's harassment policy</a> . (Anyone else here going to Windycon this weekend...?)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November  7, 2013 11:25 PM by Cassy B.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #11 from Gaie Sebold</title>
         <description>comment from Gaie Sebold on  8.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An interesting article on this in the Guardian regarding conferences in general: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/nov/06/four-steps-to-put-an-end-to-all-male-panels-at-conferences </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November  8, 2013  6:01 AM by Gaie Sebold&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #12 from Natalie L.</title>
         <description>comment from Natalie L. on  8.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple nights ago I did a very quick and informal analysis of the gender split when it came to program participants and panel assignments at Philcon.  It was much worse than I thought it would be.  <a href="http://radishreviews.com/2013/11/08/linkspam-11813-edition-2/" rel="nofollow">Here's the results.</a></p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November  8, 2013  9:20 AM by Natalie L.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #13 from janetl</title>
         <description>comment from janetl on  8.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orycon 35 starts today, and they have printed the Code of Conduct on the back of the badges. Nice!</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November  8, 2013  5:40 PM by janetl&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #14 from iamnothing</title>
         <description>comment from iamnothing on 10.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hesitate to comment, but I'm afraid that the Viable Paradise policy seems a bit Draconian to me.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 10, 2013  9:42 PM by iamnothing&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #15 from elise</title>
         <description>comment from elise on 11.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iamnothing @14:  Well, now you've got me wondering what a policy written by actual dragons might be like. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 11, 2013  6:22 AM by elise&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #16 from Lila</title>
         <description>comment from Lila on 11.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iamnothing @ #14: if it comes down to a choice between people not attending Viable Paradise because they're afraid they might be accused of harassment, and people not attending Viable Paradise because they're afraid they might be harassed, I'll pick A.</p>

<p>Ideally, of course, it wouldn't come down to that. </p>

<p>Easy for me, of course. I'm a married middleaged ciswoman; I am neither powerful nor imposing; and I don't do intoxicants, so my impulse control is pretty good. (So far I've never been sleep-deprived enough to get inappropriate, but I guess it could happen).</p>

<p>For those who might be in a position to be misinterpreted: I acknowledge you have a difficult path ahead of you. Whether it's worth negotiating is your call.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 11, 2013  8:03 AM by Lila&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #17 from Lila</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>elise: probably something along the lines of "guests who violate the courtesy due to fellow guests and hosts will be eaten".</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 11, 2013  8:08 AM by Lila&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #18 from Neil W</title>
         <description>comment from Neil W on 11.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>iamnothing @14 - Viable Paradise is 40 people, so presumably everyone will quickly get to know everyone else which ought to make it easier for misunderstandings to be headed off with a quiet word or similar. In addition, a writing workshop requires a certain level of trust that a more general con might not need.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 11, 2013  8:30 AM by Neil W&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #19 from Jim Macdonald</title>
         <description>comment from Jim Macdonald on 11.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="https://twitter.com/KTPinto/status/399769574691700736" rel="nofollow">Stay classy, KT!</a></p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 11, 2013 11:15 AM by Jim Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #20 from Jim Macdonald</title>
         <description>comment from Jim Macdonald on 11.Nov.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm told that four of the male authors at Philcon donated half of their one-hour reading slots to four of the female authors who had been excluded.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 11, 2013 11:28 AM by Jim Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #21 from sussura</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with Lila and Neil W.</p>

<p>> probably something along the lines of "guests who violate the courtesy due to fellow guests and hosts will be eaten".</p>

<p>I need this framed. Possibly in cross-stitch.</p>

<p>And yes, the split readings at Philcon worked out wonderfully. Gregory Frost, E.C. Myers, Alex Shvartsman, and Lawrence Schoen all offered of their own volition to share their readings. This allowed four more women to read. Kudos to them.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 11, 2013 11:47 AM by sussura&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #22 from Natalie L.</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I found interesting was that they found an additional hour in the programming to give a reading to another man--in one of the panel rooms on the main floor.  All the other readings were in a cramped and nearly inaccessible room without enough seating.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/eilatan/10785192723/" rel="nofollow">Photographic proof here.</a></p>

<p>Also note the shuffling around the 9-11 pm slots.  At 8:55, we wanted to attend the Self-Censorship panel. We noticed it had been moved to 10--we verified this with the program chair who was standing there.  We went away and came back an hour later and discovered that it had been moved back to the original timeslot and upon closer perusal of the printed schedule, we discovered that the "Time Keeps on Slippin'" panel never seemed to actually exist.  So I don't know what was going on with that but the result was that the Self-Censorship panel ended up being one panelist short. Or it ended up not happening at all.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 11, 2013 11:50 AM by Natalie L.&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>WTF Philcon? -- comment #23 from Inquisitive Raven sees spam</title>
         <description>comment from Inquisitive Raven sees spam on 20.Apr.14</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And unlike my mom who is from Hawaii, I don't like it. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April 20, 2014 11:53 PM by Inquisitive Raven sees spam&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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