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      <description>Bruce Schneier, &quot;Power and the Internet&quot;: All disruptive technologies upset traditional power balances, and the Internet is no exception. The...</description>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #1 from Henry Farrell</title>
         <description>comment from Henry Farrell on 31.Jan.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm prepping for a graduate seminar on these issues this evening, and just re-read a Lessig piece from 2000, which for all of his sometime political naivete <a href="http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/works/lessig/camkey.pdf" rel="nofollow">gets this more or less right</a>.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2013 12:29 PM by Henry Farrell&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #2 from Victoria</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say at this point is "the more things change, the more they stay the same". </p>

<p>I've been lurking on line for a couple of decades now, but I only feel safe posting in a few places due to one very simple, but profound fact. The internet functions just like a small, relatively isolated town/community. All the things I love and hate about coming from a small, rural community are everywhere on the internet and in internet culture. I am aware of the pitfalls, too. Aaron Swartz ran afoul of small-town-isms on the internet, and it proved fatal for him. Which is why the internet scares the beejesus out of me at times. Posses and lynch mobs still exist. Their horses are metaphoric and their ropes may be virtual, but they are no less deadly.</p>

<p>As great grandchild of sod busters and a great great grandchild of the American Civil War and indentured servitude, I was raised on the stories of what my ancestors did to each other and had done to them while pursuing their dreams. I am also aware of how their dreams have influenced mine. All of the life lessons contained in those oral histories are mapping pretty much one-on-one to current internet culture. </p>

<p>We are, all of us, pioneers. While space may be the final frontier, this, the internet, is our current one. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2013 12:58 PM by Victoria&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #3 from Tom Whitmore</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the problems with libertarian thought is that it ignores the tendency of power to concentrate in other hands than one's own. It's all well and good when I've got power, but when someone else gets it they'll use it on me. There's a tendency to think if I just break up the current power structure, I'll end up gaining more power. While this may be true for some portion of the below-median-empowered, it's not going to be true for the majority of them.</p>

<p>This is part of what Bruce is pointing to in the essay (or at least the bits quoted here). Distributed power is beginning to concentrate, and this is likely to continue. </p>

<p>An interesting call to action, Patrick, but what actions do you recommend? And how will we know if the actions are working?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2013  1:07 PM by Tom Whitmore&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #4 from Rikibeth</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, how does a non-techie fight for this, outside of signing petitions and writing to Congresscritters?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2013  1:45 PM by Rikibeth&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #5 from Avram</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Victoria @2:</b> <i>Aaron Swartz ran afoul of small-town-isms on the internet, and it proved fatal for him.</i></p>

<p>What? Swartz ran afoul of a zealous federal prosecutor. I don&rsquo;t see how that fits into any kind of &ldquo;small town&rdquo; narrative. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2013  3:49 PM by Avram&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #6 from Jim Macdonald</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"The purpose of power is to remain in power."</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2013  4:04 PM by Jim Macdonald&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #7 from P J Evans</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>6<br />
And bureaucracies are part of their protective devices.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2013  4:20 PM by P J Evans&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #8 from Stefan Jones</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many years ago, another Bruce (Sterling) did a funny/scary presentation, "Speaking for the Unspekable," at one of the early "what is this net stuff all about?" conferences.</p>

<p>(EDIT: Computers, Freedom, and Privacy)</p>

<p>bruces put on minimal disguises -- mirrorshades, a spook's dark glasses, a banana-republic general's peaked cap -- and in character talked about how useful the net was for violent and power-hungry bastards.</p>

<p>It seems utterly dead-on now, particularly how autocratic regimes use the tools of the net to crack down on dissent.</p>

<p>* * *<br />
Me, I give the EFF $100 a year and let their pros do the work. I used to be try to keep up with the issues, but man, it isn't easy.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2013  6:08 PM by Stefan Jones&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #9 from Rick York</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of a myriad of demonstrations of how the coin of the realm can undermine the cause of freedom.</p>

<p>As M.Scheiner says, vigilance - constant and unremitting - is the only way to protect our first amendment rights. (And, even that might not work.)</p>

<p>Americans have clearly demonstrated their willingness to abandon their liberties to secure their "safety". Patriot Act anyone?</p>

<p>Franklin's warning has lost nothing over the last two centuries:</p>

<p>"<i>They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.</i>"<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2013  6:50 PM by Rick York&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #10 from Randolph</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you then abandoned libertarian ideology?</p>

<p>It was clear to me very early on that "The Internet empowers everyone."  I applaud the wider recognition of this reality and can only hope it has come in time.  One factor that perhaps weighs in our favor: I do not think that the freedom of the internet and the decency of its early administration was entirely "a fortuitous accident;" there was a lot of good will that made it possible, and much of that good will is still there, still waiting to be tapped.</p>

<p>Rikibeth, #4: "So, how does a non-techie fight for this, outside of signing petitions and writing to Congresscritters?"  <i>Be a good netizen</i>.  It matters, it matters a great deal.  How we conduct ourselves at what is still the dawn of the wired age will make a difference in the future.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2013  6:55 PM by Randolph&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #11 from Fragano Ledgister </title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In essence, Patrick, it's the nerd's equivalent of the belief that everyone owning a gun will prevent tyranny. Just the way it did in tsarist Russia, the Soviet Union (a country with hunters and other private gun-owners), or Franco's Spain.</p>

<p>If I own a tool, and someone else owns a more powerful version of that tool (or can command many more tools than I) I am not as powerful as that other, nor am I their equal.  No matter how much I delude myself into thinking so.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted January 31, 2013  7:16 PM by Fragano Ledgister &lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #12 from abi</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Randolph @10:</strong><br />
<em>Have you then abandoned libertarian ideology?</em></p>

<p>Out of curiosity, whom are you addressing here?</p>

<p>As far as I am aware, Patrick's record as a hardcore libertarian is only slightly less well-established than his record as a prize-winning showjumper.  And it's not like this is a libertarianism-default community.</p>

<p>(Or is this another case of Movable Type eating &lt;sarcasm&gt; tags again?  I hate it when that happens.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2013  2:54 AM by abi&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #13 from Avram</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=making+light&btnG=Google+Search" rel="nofollow">Google still identifies Making Light</a> as &ldquo;A liberal to libertarian weblog on issues of interest to a full-time science fiction editor and part-time musician in New York&rdquo;, which seems awfully Patrick-centric. I think it&rsquo;s the description line from <a href="http://www.dmoz.org/Society/Politics/Liberalism/Libertarianism/News_and_Media/Weblogs/" rel="nofollow">the Open Directory description</a> for Electrolite. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2013  4:17 AM by Avram&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #14 from Dave Bell</title>
         <description>comment from Dave Bell on  1.Feb.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Libertarian", as is "Anarchist", is a woefully imprecise label. But both seem to have a near-axiomatic assumption of power rising from the bottom up, which rarely seems to work.</p>

<p>"That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the Rich and Powerful to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2013  4:38 AM by Dave Bell&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #15 from guthrie</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, maybe it's the old European definition of 'libertarian' which is to do more with left anarchism/ syndicalism and anti-capitalism, rather than pro-capitalist pro-market American libertarianism.  </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2013  6:02 AM by guthrie&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #16 from bryan</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."</p>

<p>hmm, well the american public has given up some essential liberties to obtain a little temporary safety (or the illusion thereof) over the past decade or so, thus by this dicta it is reasonable to deprive said public of both liberty and safety. How nice for those who might wish to do so. </p>

<p>That was my roundabout way of arguing that probably everyone deserves both liberty and safety as a matter of morality - even if it might stick in our craw at times. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2013  6:29 AM by bryan&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #17 from Randolph</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>abi, #12: at least in the past, possibly a very long time ago, I remember Patrick giving some credit to some version of libertarianism.  We never discussed it in depth, though, and I was wondering about the evolution of his beliefs.</p>

<p>Heck, I did that, back when.  But that was 30 years ago.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2013  6:56 AM by Randolph&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #18 from Rikibeth</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Randolph @10: I like to think I've been being a good netizen (save a few early lapses in forwarding a cookie recipe with a bogus story attached) since 1987. As I've been using this same moniker continuously, and there don't seem to be any others, it's not too hard to check.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2013  7:43 AM by Rikibeth&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #19 from fidelio</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we're considering apposite quotations, allow me to offer this one:  <b>"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"</b>.</p>

<p>If you have not read <i>Animal Farm</i>, it might be a good idea to do so soon. Orwell aimed it at the Stalinist Soviet Union, but the value of the parable is not diminished just because the target now rests in the dustbin of history.</p>

<p>Also, the link to women in early radio reminds me: radio* was seen (and often was) a tool for freedom**; it was also quickly manipulated as a tool of capitalism and authoritarianism. Radio is not the internet, but the historic similarities and differences are worth consideration in the context of freedom and constraint.</p>

<p>*Your cell phone, smart or otherwise, is also a radio. People are often surprised when I mention that, although I suspect fewer in the <br />
Fluorosphere are. </p>

<p>**Tweets from Port Said and Tahrir Square have a pedigreee that goes back through Radio B92 of Belgrade, through Budapest in 1956 and the occupied countries of World War II and the Spanish Civil War and every twentieth-century freedom movement that could put together a boradcasting set. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2013 10:32 AM by fidelio&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #20 from bryan</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>> "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".</p>

<p>Vincent: Bacon tastes gooood. Pork chops taste gooood. </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2013  3:35 PM by bryan&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #21 from Chrl Strss is self-disemvoweling</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a related note, I'm just back from attending the launch and inaugural conference of <a href="http://www.create.ac.uk/" rel="nofollow">CREATe</a>, a cross-disciplinary multi-university academic research program on the future of copyright, regulation and new business models for the creative industries in the UK (into which I got roped in as some sort of creative-in-residence gig). I was one of about half a dozen creators ... out of around 100 attendees (and 150 or so at the launch). Most of them are academics, heavily drawing on the law faculties -- but a bunch were media industry heavies; we had the head of the main UK collections agency, the PRS, for example. And at the launch evening, the density of media industry lobbyists was just terrifying (although I suspect they were mostly there to try and rub shoulders with the Professional Plastic Political Persons of Power -- yes, the launch event rated speeches by a junior minister from Westminster and a heavy hitter from Holyrood). </p>

<p>There's going to be a lot of work to be done just to stop the CREATe forum turning into a rubber stamp for the  snout-in-trough middlemen and their obsession with beating up on PIRATES!!!1!!ELEVENTY!!! (their preferred policy). And the scary bit is that this mostly academic research program will feed into evidence-based policy making by the UK government (insofar as it isn't nobbled by lobbyists representing the main moneyed interests) and quite possibly end up influencing IP policy at an EU level, and then at a WTO level.</p>

<p>As another delegate remarked, it was interesting how many people were focussing on the word "industry" any how few were focussing on the word "creative". Indeed, the same miasma of greed dressed up in sanctimonious market orthodoxy was rising from many of the participants in the enterprise that Patrick remarked on in this blog entry.</p>

<p>((PS: I'm using a pseudonym to make it marginally less likely that this will come up in the results for searches for CREATe and insert-my-name, because I don't want to be quite this scathing in public without marginal plausible deniability.))</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2013  4:41 PM by Chrl Strss is self-disemvoweling&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #22 from SamChevre</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm an optimist on this one, because I think the internet is like printing.  It took 300 years, but the books won.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  1, 2013  5:25 PM by SamChevre&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #23 from John A Arkansawyer</title>
         <description>comment from John A Arkansawyer on  2.Feb.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SamChevre@22: Oddly enough, that's exactly why I'm cautiously pessimistic.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  2, 2013  2:34 AM by John A Arkansawyer&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #24 from Jules</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Chrl" @21 -- given google's ability to ignore spelling errors, I'm not convinced your approach to reducing searchability is likely to succeed, particularly as it almost certainly is (in some fashion) aware of your previous associations with this site.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  2, 2013  6:18 AM by Jules&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #25 from Me, myself, and I</title>
         <description>comment from Me, myself, and I on  2.Feb.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jules @24: you may be right, but: all I want is plausible deniability. It's not like I'm confessing to a crime ...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  2, 2013  9:20 AM by Me, myself, and I&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #26 from albatross</title>
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         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chrl:</p>

<p>I think one of the unsexy forces that really drives the world is the kind of research that gets funded, and how it gets funded.  Without vast funding from two countries bent on having the power to wipe each other off the map, we wouldn't have fusion bombs.  The cold war led to funding research and development of all kinds of technology that pushed the world in a certain direction.  Even as the technology spilled out into the public world, the things that got developed in well-funded labs vs garages were determined by what seemed useful during the cold war.  For the last decade and more, anything with a homeland security angle has had an easier time getting funded.  And DRM-related stuff has been able to get funding and interest largely because of the rich, politically-connected industry that needs it.  At the same time, the dot com bubble, high-risk drug development by biotech startups, kickstarter, and the open-source movement are all ways that totally different stuff got developed.  Existing big companies and industries tend to fund research that's a natural extension of what they're doing, but then sit on a lot of it because it conflicts with their current business.  (Famously, IBM and Xerox and AT&T paid for the development of a huge number of wonderful ideas and technology that sat around unused till someone else ran with it.). </p>

<p>I am not sure how predictable the effects of these funding mechanisms are--you can fund Cold War stuff and get the internet, or fund cancer research and learn about retroviruses.  But it has a huge impact on the world.  Different funding decisions and mechanisms 40 years ago would make the world a radically different place.  </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  2, 2013 10:06 AM by albatross&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #27 from Randolph</title>
         <description>comment from Randolph on  4.Feb.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>danah boyd <a href="http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2013/02/02/mourning-and-public-ness.html" rel="nofollow">writes on public grief and Aaron Swartz</a>.</p>

<p>"…where are geeks allowed to be vulnerable today?"</p>

<p>My comment, "There was space to move, not the white-hot attention of a thousand amateur paparazzi, and black-cold attention of a whole world of police and prosecutors."</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  4, 2013  9:56 AM by Randolph&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>&quot;Or the future of the Internet becomes something that is done to us.&quot; -- comment #28 from Jacque</title>
         <description>comment from Jacque on  4.Feb.13</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Tom Whitmore @3:</b> <i>An interesting call to action, Patrick, but what actions do you recommend?</i></p>

<p>Well, for one, keeping an eagle eye on relevant legislation, for sure.</p>

<p>For another, I'd <i>really</i> like to see peer-to-peer routing become a practical reality.</p>

<p>(Meanwhile, I'm going to be giggling over <b>abi @12's</b> image of Patrick as a prize-winning showjumper for the rest of the day....)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted February  4, 2013  5:05 PM by Jacque&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2013 17:05:15 -0500</pubDate>
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