Making Light :: Tomorrow and yesterday :: comments http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#comments Language, fraud, folly, truth, history, and knitting. Et cetera. en Sat, 06 Jan 2007 14:18:10 -0500 http://www.sixapart.com/movabletype/?v=4.34-en Tomorrow and yesterday The Village Voice, now merged into the New Times chain, has dropped Tom Tomorrow from their print edition. There's an... The Village Voice, now merged into the New Times chain, has dropped Tom Tomorrow from their print edition. There's an... http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html Tomorrow and yesterday -- comment #1 from poopy pants comment from poopy pants on 6.Jan.07 Yeap....
And the cover story for the once-cutting-edge Village Voice last week?

About 1,500 words about the writer's attempt to quit eating sugar!

Look, I know there's nothing much going on in the world for a left-leaning paper to rail against, with the sudden outbreak of world peace, universal human rights and economic prosperity for all classes, but don't you think the Voice might feature a story with a bit more gravitas?

Thank god for blogs.

]]> <p>Posted January 6, 2007 2:18 PM by poopy pants</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164378 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164378 Sat, 06 Jan 2007 14:18:10 -0500 Tomorrow and yesterday -- comment #2 from kid bitzer comment from kid bitzer on 6.Jan.07 okay--petition signed.
thanks for reminding me, and providing links.

]]> <p>Posted January 6, 2007 2:46 PM by kid bitzer</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164382 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164382 Sat, 06 Jan 2007 14:46:46 -0500 Tomorrow and yesterday -- comment #3 from ironymaiden comment from ironymaiden on 6.Jan.07 they've ruined Seattle Weekly. most of the content in the paper now comes from elsewhere in the network, including oh-so-appropriate columns like "Ask a Mexican." (um, Seattle has an incredibly tiny latino population for a city of its size. i won't comment on the actual column content.)

the writing staff has been slashed, and so have the health benefits for the folks that remain on the payroll.

]]> <p>Posted January 6, 2007 2:56 PM by ironymaiden</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164385 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164385 Sat, 06 Jan 2007 14:56:56 -0500 Tomorrow and yesterday -- comment #4 from Roy G. Ovrebo comment from Roy G. Ovrebo on 6.Jan.07 Norway's Quote of the Year 2006:

"Nearly all newspapers offer a magazine - steadily fewer of them offer a newspaper" - Gudmund Hernes

]]> <p>Posted January 6, 2007 3:26 PM by Roy G. Ovrebo</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164392 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164392 Sat, 06 Jan 2007 15:26:05 -0500 Tomorrow and yesterday -- comment #5 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on 6.Jan.07 When I lived in Seattle, there were so few latinos that the local taquerias were run by Koreans.

]]> <p>Posted January 6, 2007 3:33 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164394 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164394 Sat, 06 Jan 2007 15:33:12 -0500 Tomorrow and yesterday -- comment #6 from Larry Brennan comment from Larry Brennan on 6.Jan.07 Teresa - We actually now have taco trucks, and a few half-decent taquerias. Now I'm missing the Bay Area again. Where are El Toro and Pancho Villa (the San Mateo one, not the Mission one) when you need them?

There's one decent feature left in the Weakly - Ask an Uptight Seattleite. Otherwise, not even fit for fishwrap. It fell right off a cliff. Thud.

Thankfully, we still have The Stranger.

]]> <p>Posted January 6, 2007 4:02 PM by Larry Brennan</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164399 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164399 Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:02:43 -0500 Tomorrow and yesterday -- comment #7 from P J Evans comment from P J Evans on 6.Jan.07 At least 'Ask a Mexican' is by someone who's Mexican in ancestry (it's actually written by a guy in Orange County).

The LA Weekly this week had a cover story on one of the more liberal imams in the area. It's sort of relevant. First time I've bothered even to open one in a couple of years; mostly it's ads for cosmetic surgery, exotic dance, and clubs.

]]> <p>Posted January 6, 2007 4:29 PM by P J Evans</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164406 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164406 Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:29:26 -0500 Tomorrow and yesterday -- comment #8 from Dave Bell comment from Dave Bell on 6.Jan.07 P J, I get the image of somebody needing the cosmetic surgery to get into the exotic dance business. Do they need the clubs to fight off the audience?

]]> <p>Posted January 6, 2007 4:43 PM by Dave Bell</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164408 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164408 Sat, 06 Jan 2007 16:43:35 -0500 Tomorrow and yesterday -- comment #9 from P J Evans comment from P J Evans on 6.Jan.07 Dave, they might. It's ads for eyelid improvements, augmentation (or reduction in some cases), nose reshaping, and probably a few other things that shouldn't be brought up in public. And clubs as in music.

I won't go into the personal ads. (You probably don't want to either.)

]]> <p>Posted January 6, 2007 5:25 PM by P J Evans</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164416 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164416 Sat, 06 Jan 2007 17:25:49 -0500 Tomorrow and yesterday -- comment #10 from Sajia Kabir comment from Sajia Kabir on 6.Jan.07 Occassionally me and my friends will grouse about the current state of Vancouver's Georgia Straight. Apparantly it used to be once a lot like The Stranger, but it now has more of a hipster entertainment magazine. I will say, though, that it's a good hipster magazine, and it still regularly publishes good-quality left-liberal news and political content. And it has had a more multicultural focus than Terminal City (the late weekly, not the comic book).

]]> <p>Posted January 6, 2007 5:30 PM by Sajia Kabir</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164418 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164418 Sat, 06 Jan 2007 17:30:20 -0500 Tomorrow and yesterday -- comment #11 from Bob Oldendorf comment from Bob Oldendorf on 7.Jan.07 The wind went out of the Village Voice's sails when they switched to free distribution.

I took that as confirmation of Chomsky's point about the media: that moving from a reliance on readers for revenue to a reliance on advertisers for revenue means that a newspaper can ONLY privilege the interests of the advertisers.

The recent changes in ownership have only highlighted the fundamental change.

]]> <p>Posted January 7, 2007 3:10 AM by Bob Oldendorf</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164477 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164477 Sun, 07 Jan 2007 03:10:47 -0500 Tomorrow and yesterday -- comment #12 from Faren Miller comment from Faren Miller on 7.Jan.07 Since I've been out of the Bay Area for 6+ years now, I'd like to know if the Berkeley Express still exists in uncorrupted form.

]]> <p>Posted January 7, 2007 1:03 PM by Faren Miller</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164508 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164508 Sun, 07 Jan 2007 13:03:32 -0500 Tomorrow and yesterday -- comment #13 from Serge comment from Serge on 7.Jan.07 Teresa @ 5...When I lived in Seattle, there were so few latinos that the local taquerias were run by Koreans.

Meanwhile, here in Albuquerque, Japanese fast-food drive-thru places are run by Hispanics. (Statistically not very surprising, I know.)

]]> <p>Posted January 7, 2007 1:39 PM by Serge</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164513 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164513 Sun, 07 Jan 2007 13:39:54 -0500 Tomorrow and yesterday -- comment #14 from Serge comment from Serge on 7.Jan.07 San Francisco's Bay Guardian is still around, but is it still its own property? And is it still full of itself? I stopped reading it in early 1997, years before I left the Bay Area, because they got me so mad about when they used the death of columnist Herb Caen to further their holier-than-thou political agenda.

]]> <p>Posted January 7, 2007 1:44 PM by Serge</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164515 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164515 Sun, 07 Jan 2007 13:44:31 -0500 Tomorrow and yesterday -- comment #15 from ethan comment from ethan on 7.Jan.07 When I lived in Seattle, there were so few latinos that the local taquerias were run by Koreans.

In Providence there's a strange trend recently of coffee-and-bagel places going out of business and being replaced by Korean restaurants...who keep the same coffee and bagels from the old places, because they were so popular. I'd imagine stumbling across one and not knowing the history would be pretty odd.

As for the local paper issue, I keep wanting to start my own because the choices are so awful.

]]> <p>Posted January 7, 2007 4:44 PM by ethan</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164549 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164549 Sun, 07 Jan 2007 16:44:37 -0500 Tomorrow and yesterday -- comment #16 from Hob comment from Hob on 7.Jan.07 Serge, the Bay Guardian is still around and still independent. They can be annoying, but at least they do actual reporting, and they're up front about their political point of view. And I don't mind them coming across as holier-than-thou when their position actually is (usually) holier than the rest; the Chronicle is a miserable ass-kissing shell, and SF Weekly is another New Times clone with a particularly venomous "we're cool because we don't care about all that political crap" attitude.

]]> <p>Posted January 7, 2007 5:10 PM by Hob</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164555 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#164555 Sun, 07 Jan 2007 17:10:09 -0500 Tomorrow and yesterday -- comment #17 from D. comment from D. on 17.Jan.07 #12: Re: East Bay Express: No.

And now I have to go.

]]> <p>Posted January 17, 2007 2:26 PM by D.</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#166324 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/008500.html#166324 Wed, 17 Jan 2007 14:26:40 -0500