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      <description>From AP via Forbes:Lawmakers seeking to curtail food warning labels have personal ties to food industry lobbyists, critics said Monday....</description>
      <content:encoded>From AP via Forbes:Lawmakers seeking to curtail food warning labels have personal ties to food industry lobbyists, critics said Monday....</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #1 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on  8.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My congresscritter is going to be against this (it does help to be represented by one of the two liberals from Georgia).</p>

<p>This is nothing more than business as usual from the  Republicans: States' rights when the states are weak, federal power used to override the states when they show they aren't weak.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  8, 2006  2:13 PM by Fragano Ledgister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #2 from P J Evans</title>
         <description>comment from P J Evans on  8.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This is nothing more than business as usual from the Republicans</i></p>

<p>and businesses are to be protected from evil regulators at all levels of government.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  8, 2006  2:17 PM by P J Evans&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #3 from Xopher (Christopher Hatton)</title>
         <description>comment from Xopher (Christopher Hatton) on  8.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dammit!  Why does this stuff come up when my District is unrepresented!!!!</p>

<p>Darn Corzine for appointing Menendez to the Senate.  He should have appointed...</p>

<p>Should have appointed...</p>

<p>Hmm.</p>

<p>A non-disgraced, non-corrupt (missed the boat on that one, Corzie), non-idiot New Jersey politician.</p>

<p>And while I'm wishing for that, I'd like a pony please.  With wings.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  8, 2006  2:26 PM by Xopher (Christopher Hatton)&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #4 from Sisuile</title>
         <description>comment from Sisuile on  8.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard about this on NPR the other day, but i have to say phoning my congressman won't help in this case.</p>

<p>why?</p>

<p>His name is Roy Blunt Jr, R-Mo.</p>

<p>I hate my district sometimes.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  8, 2006  3:03 PM by Sisuile&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #5 from Stefan Jones</title>
         <description>comment from Stefan Jones on  8.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should still call, Sisuile.</p>

<p>Don't let them get away with thinking they have a mandate.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  8, 2006  3:14 PM by Stefan Jones&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #6 from Cynthia Wood</title>
         <description>comment from Cynthia Wood on  8.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'll be contacting my Congresscritter, though I have serious doubts as to him listening to reason. Nonetheless, we can but try.</p>

<p>Perhaps this next election we can get a new and better model...</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  8, 2006  4:20 PM by Cynthia Wood&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #7 from Scraps</title>
         <description>comment from Scraps on  8.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So where did the Republicans misplace States' Rights this time?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  8, 2006  5:09 PM by Scraps&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #8 from Anders</title>
         <description>comment from Anders on  8.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is ridiculous, blatant corporate pandering</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  8, 2006  6:13 PM by Anders&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #9 from Mike Kozlowski</title>
         <description>comment from Mike Kozlowski on  8.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am (I suppose) in favor of better labelling laws; but it strikes me as a much better idea to have them at the federal level than at individual levels.  This is the sort of area where local regulation doesn't seem to make a lot of sense.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  8, 2006  6:26 PM by Mike Kozlowski&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #10 from P J Evans</title>
         <description>comment from P J Evans on  8.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike K: This would take out state laws that are stricter than the federal regs. That's probably the whole point. (They don't like CA's clean-air regs, and are trying to get those superseded also.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  8, 2006  6:31 PM by P J Evans&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #11 from Fragano Ledgister</title>
         <description>comment from Fragano Ledgister on  8.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scraps: 'States' rights' is a very flexible concept used by conservatives in two ways:</p>

<p>(1) to screw minorities.</p>

<p>(2) to screw everyone else.</p>

<p>Method (1) is pretty well known -- the 'right' of states to deny full rights to all its citizens.</p>

<p>Method (2) is to claim that states' rights are violated whenever federal law is used to regulate the behaviour of business and to completely ignore states' rights when state law regulates business more stringently than federal law.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  8, 2006  7:02 PM by Fragano Ledgister&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #12 from Richard Anderson</title>
         <description>comment from Richard Anderson on  8.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the Republicans are arguing that this is an interstate commerce issue....</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  8, 2006  7:03 PM by Richard Anderson&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #13 from Derryl Murphy</title>
         <description>comment from Derryl Murphy on  8.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frustrating to think that there's no one I could contact who would be willing to listen, being a foreigner and all. With Aidan's peanut allergy, visits to the US would look that much less appealing.</p>

<p>D</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  8, 2006  7:38 PM by Derryl Murphy&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #14 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on  8.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, if they wanted a uniform code of safety regulations, administered at the federal level, they could draft one. They haven't done so, and show no signs of starting. This bill would be a complete rollback of hundreds of state-level health and safety regulations, with nothing to replace them.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  8, 2006  9:02 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #15 from Teresa Nielsen Hayden</title>
         <description>comment from Teresa Nielsen Hayden on  8.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good question, Scraps. I think they took it down to the basement and stashed it behind Local Control.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  8, 2006  9:05 PM by Teresa Nielsen Hayden&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #16 from Rebecca</title>
         <description>comment from Rebecca on  8.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank god for Trader Joes.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  8, 2006 10:38 PM by Rebecca&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #17 from mythago</title>
         <description>comment from mythago on  9.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I suppose the Republicans are arguing that this is an interstate commerce issue....</i></p>

<p>Yes! They are! Because, see, food is shipped across state lines, and it's darn burdensome to have to have one set of rules in Mississippi and another in California. It's much easier to force everyone to the lowest common denominator.</p>

<p>The point of this is pre-emption: to <i>forbid</i> states from making stronger regulations than the Federal government deems necessary. It's all about streamlining things for the food industry and freeing them from pesky state regulations. </p>

<p>Because it's much, much easier to buy off one Representative or Senator than to have to buy off a whole bunch of legislators in fifty states.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  9, 2006  1:58 PM by mythago&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #18 from Mike Kozlowski</title>
         <description>comment from Mike Kozlowski on  9.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teresa and PJ:  Yes, that's true, and that's the downside of this.  But the upside is, it replaces stupid patchwork local laws with rational, universal  national laws.</p>

<p>(Just because conservatives aren't REALLY in favor of states' rights doesn't mean I'm not really opposed to them.)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  9, 2006  6:45 PM by Mike Kozlowski&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #19 from Lenora Rose</title>
         <description>comment from Lenora Rose on  9.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: It replaces them <i>when?</i></p>

<p>For the "Rational, universal" laws to replace laws being stripped from the books, don't they have to cover the same territory?</p>

<p>80% of the food safety laws would *go away*. That is vastly different from being replaced.</p>

<p>Trust me. I work in the office for a bakery. You don't want to have any kind of allergy or other food-related health issue if all that goes away. It's hard enough with all those regulations firmly in place (Here in Canada) to get allergen information and a complete breakdown of ingredients.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  9, 2006  9:12 PM by Lenora Rose&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #20 from P J Evans</title>
         <description>comment from P J Evans on  9.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best you can find for allergen labelling in the US is something like 'made in a plant where wheat is used'. Or similar wording.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March  9, 2006 10:04 PM by P J Evans&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #21 from Lis Riba</title>
         <description>comment from Lis Riba on 10.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, now that they've got that out of the way, they're thinking of doing <b>something similar to health insurance</b>, removing state requirements to drop everyone to the lowest common denominator.</p>

<p>And what kinds of procedures are they targeting for such standardization? Why <b>birth control and women's health</b>, of course.</p>

<p>Quoting a press release<blockquote>The Health Insurance Marketplace Modernization and Affordability Act (HIMMAA), introduced by Sen. Mike Enzi (R-WY) would allow insurance companies to ignore nearly all state laws that require insurance coverage for certain treatments or conditions, such as laws that require them to include contraceptives in their prescription plans.<br />"We need to move forward, not backward in expanding access to quality health care, including birth control," said Planned Parenthood Federation of America President Cecile Richards. "Congress should work to protect patients, not undermine them."<br />This federal legislation would raze hundreds of state laws that ensure patients can get the medical care they need and would<br />&bull; not allow women to designate their ob/gyns as primary care providers<br />&bull; not allow women to seek care directly from their ob/gyns, but would force them to be screened by their primary care doctors first<br />&bull; dismantle coverage for contraception<br />&bull; dismantle coverage for annual cervical cancer exams<br />&bull; not allow women to stay with the same doctor throughout a pregnancy, if that doctor was dropped from the insurance provider<br />For years, many insurance plans covered prescription drugs, but refused to cover birth control pills and other prescription contraceptives for women. In the past decade lawmakers in 23 states have remedied this inequity and enacted contraceptive coverage laws. Under HIMMAA women will lose contraceptive-equity protections currently guaranteed by state law.</blockquote></p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March 10, 2006 10:28 AM by Lis Riba&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #22 from Paula Lieberman</title>
         <description>comment from Paula Lieberman on 10.Mar.06</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Republicraps.</p>

<p>Unfortunately kosher certification doesn't call out wheat starch or  eggs or other ingredients that are kosher and pareve... the stricter ones do note dairy ingredients, meat and meat byproducts, etc.  Jell-O gets a kosher certification from some non-strict authorities because of the amount of processing involved... the odors that used to come from the Jell-O factory in Woburn that's just west of I-93 and south of the Montvale Avenue exit, indicated quite clearly that what went into that factory, was not "edible".... bones and hooves of animals, with rotting meat on them.  The odor used to be really really really vile. </p>

<p>The level of processing involved, was not sufficient to prevent Jell-O from being poisonous to Jay Haldeman, who had developed severe allergic reactions to eating meat and meat by-products, however. </p>

<p>===============</p>

<p>I wonder if there is any way to sue Republicraps  or their fund contributors for wrongful death for the deaths of women and girls from botched illegal abortions?  [For that matter, for wrongful death from people who die from food poisoning/allergic reactions to unlabelled food ingredients..]   (There is at least one person now in jail for a long long time for killing a fetus, a couple who couldn't obtain a legal abortion, tried cruder methods at home, one or both convicted of "murdering" a fetus.... strange that the Biblical literalist sorts who are always using the Bible as their Moral Authority, don't follow the only parts of it that talk about abortion.... ).</p>

<p>Quoting a Nixon-era bumper sticker:</p>

<p>"Don't blame me, I'm from Massachusetts."  </p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted March 10, 2006  7:00 PM by Paula Lieberman&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #23 from Terry Karney</title>
         <description>comment from Terry Karney on  4.Oct.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Topical spam here (which is funny twice)</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October  4, 2007  8:20 PM by Terry Karney&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #24 from Serge</title>
         <description>comment from Serge on  4.Oct.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>trying one time my KOMBUCHA</i></p>

<p>Do I <i>have</i> to?</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October  4, 2007  9:47 PM by Serge&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #25 from Rob Rusick</title>
         <description>comment from Rob Rusick on  4.Oct.07</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My landlord was talking up kombucha a few weeks ago; the local food co-op had it on discount til the end of the month. This particular company <i>(the kombucha distributors)</i> flavored it with ginger, green tea, and citrus <i>(original flavor was also available)</i>. At a discount, it was cheaper than restaurant beer <i>(without the discount, it was roughly equivalent)</i>. Supposedly had anti-oxidants, all the helpful bacteria that yogurt has, and some of their cousins. I liked it, but I haven't gone out and got more of it.<br />
</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted October  4, 2007 10:12 PM by Rob Rusick&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #26 from Mary Aileen spots undeleted spam</title>
         <description>comment from Mary Aileen spots undeleted spam on 22.Nov.08</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>old spam at 23</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted November 22, 2008  2:37 PM by Mary Aileen spots undeleted spam&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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         <title>Making noise: Congressional vote on food warning labels -- comment #27 from TexAnne sees spam</title>
         <description>comment from TexAnne sees spam on  4.Apr.10</description>
         <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another incompetent feeler.</p>]]>
	 &lt;p&gt;Posted April  4, 2010  5:29 PM by TexAnne sees spam&lt;/p&gt;</content:encoded>
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