Making Light :: Technical problem, sigh :: comments http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#comments Language, fraud, folly, truth, history, and knitting. Et cetera. en Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:59:07 -0500 http://www.sixapart.com/movabletype/?v=4.34-en Technical problem, sigh This is Patrick, not Teresa, who's just noticed that, viewed with Safari, Making Light's entire left-hand column now appears to... This is Patrick, not Teresa, who's just noticed that, viewed with Safari, Making Light's entire left-hand column now appears to... http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html Technical problem, sigh -- comment #1 from Tracina comment from Tracina on 27.Dec.04 Patrick, I'm using Safari 1.2.1 and getting that problem. I wasn't getting it on Thursday, which is the last day I was here until today, if that helps you narrow the timeframe.

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 12:59 PM by Tracina</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71803 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71803 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 12:59:07 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #2 from Will "scifantasy" Frank comment from Will "scifantasy" Frank on 27.Dec.04 Oddly, I'm getting that problem (I'm at home on a G4 iMac, Safari 1.2.4) on the main Making Light page, but not, as example, this page.

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 1:18 PM by Will "scifantasy" Frank</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71804 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71804 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:18:49 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #3 from Patrick Nielsen Hayden comment from Patrick Nielsen Hayden on 27.Dec.04 Yeah, it appears to be the front page only.

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 1:21 PM by Patrick Nielsen Hayden</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71805 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71805 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:21:22 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #4 from Andrew Willett comment from Andrew Willett on 27.Dec.04 To back up Tracina: The whatever-it-is dates back to sometime Friday. My best guess is that it's a mangled tag in a 12/24 entry, which I'll go look into right now.

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 1:28 PM by Andrew Willett</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71806 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71806 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:28:40 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #5 from Andrew Willett comment from Andrew Willett on 27.Dec.04 Patrick, there's a </blockquote> missing from the end of the Maryland song.

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 1:33 PM by Andrew Willett</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71807 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71807 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:33:44 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #6 from Tracina comment from Tracina on 27.Dec.04 Whatever you just did fixed the problem for me.

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 1:46 PM by Tracina</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71810 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71810 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:46:06 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #7 from Patrick Nielsen Hayden comment from Patrick Nielsen Hayden on 27.Dec.04 That did it! Thank you so much, Andrew.

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 1:46 PM by Patrick Nielsen Hayden</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71811 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71811 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:46:07 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #8 from Paula Helm Murray comment from Paula Helm Murray on 27.Dec.04 It's all back in the right places!

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 1:52 PM by Paula Helm Murray</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71812 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71812 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 13:52:57 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #9 from Claude Muncey comment from Claude Muncey on 27.Dec.04 Nice catch, Andrew.

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 2:20 PM by Claude Muncey</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71813 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71813 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:20:02 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #10 from Jean Dudley comment from Jean Dudley on 27.Dec.04 Same issue here. It started when I added Google ads to the template per instructions provided by GoogleAdsense.

Go see.

Using Safary 1.2.4

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 2:27 PM by Jean Dudley</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71814 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71814 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:27:34 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #11 from Kate Nepveu comment from Kate Nepveu on 27.Dec.04 I wonder if it dates from our attempts to fix the wretched problems with Making Light in Microsoft Internet Exploder.

Is this the place to mention Dan Blum's fix for long comment pages being cut off that worked for me in IE & Opera 7?

(It was in the middle of an open thread so I wasn't sure if it had been seen.)

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 2:29 PM by Kate Nepveu</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71815 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71815 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 14:29:55 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #12 from BethN comment from BethN on 27.Dec.04 Yay! Everything's back where it belongs! One small corner of the world where all is now ok.

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 3:08 PM by BethN</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71816 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71816 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:08:25 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #13 from Graydon comment from Graydon on 27.Dec.04 Just as a data point -- I was (not) seeing the same thing as the Safari users were with Konqueror 3.3.2.

So at least we know that the Apple guys aren't messing too much with KHTML's tendency to give you exactly what the page says. :)

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 3:15 PM by Graydon</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71817 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71817 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:15:32 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #14 from Jean Dudley comment from Jean Dudley on 27.Dec.04 Er. Um. Never mind. It was an overly-wide image that was making my sidebar slide to the bottom. Oops.

But on the plus side, I did manage to find all the mising blockquote tags.

Jean Dudley.

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 3:35 PM by Jean Dudley</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71818 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71818 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:35:18 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #15 from xeger comment from xeger on 27.Dec.04 Heh. I mentioned this in the last open thread, because I wasn't sure if it was just me - but I'm very glad to see it fixed :)

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 4:07 PM by xeger</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71822 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71822 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:07:34 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #16 from Patrick Nielsen Hayden comment from Patrick Nielsen Hayden on 27.Dec.04 Kate, I followed Dan Blum's suggestion, but it seems to have worked only for some MSIE users, not all of them. So I'm a bit at a loss.

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 4:07 PM by Patrick Nielsen Hayden</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71823 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71823 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:07:56 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #17 from Dan Blum comment from Dan Blum on 27.Dec.04 Hmm. Looking at the source for this page, I don't see a 'div style="clear:both;"' tag at the bottom, which was my (second) suggested solution. Did you take it out again after trying it?

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 4:20 PM by Dan Blum</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71825 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71825 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:20:49 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #18 from Patrick Nielsen Hayden comment from Patrick Nielsen Hayden on 27.Dec.04 Someone around here is really confused and it's probably not you. I thought I'd added it to the individual archive template. Now I have. MSIE users, do let us know if the bug persists. (Flush your cache first, though.)

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 4:31 PM by Patrick Nielsen Hayden</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71826 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71826 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:31:54 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #19 from Dan Blum comment from Dan Blum on 27.Dec.04 It's working for me now, even without flushing the cache.

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 4:43 PM by Dan Blum</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71828 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71828 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:43:15 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #20 from Kate Nepveu comment from Kate Nepveu on 27.Dec.04 Long comment pages now work too in Opera 7. Thank you!

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 4:47 PM by Kate Nepveu</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71829 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71829 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:47:02 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #21 from Avram comment from Avram on 27.Dec.04 Patrick, Teresa, are you familiar with Markdown? It's a perl script -- works with Moveable Type 2.6 or better, and as a BBEdit filter, and there's an OSX service version that should work in most any OSX program -- that takes some pretty simple formatting and turns it into HTML. Basically, it lets you format a blog post like an email message, turning blocks of text preceded by > symbols into BLOCKQUOTEs, turning _this_ into this, and a few other things. Here are the basics, and there's a CGI dingus you can use to try it out. And you can drop ordinary HTML in there too, so you don't have to give up those SPAN tags.

It should make it harder to forget to close BLOCKQUOTEs.

]]> <p>Posted December 27, 2004 7:55 PM by Avram</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71833 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71833 Mon, 27 Dec 2004 19:55:11 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #22 from Jurie comment from Jurie on 28.Dec.04 Hmmm.... Using Safari 1.2.4. I now see the "Commercial airspace" much broader than the images in the left column. And I see no right column at all. That's on this page.

]]> <p>Posted December 28, 2004 4:53 AM by Jurie</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71841 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71841 Tue, 28 Dec 2004 04:53:31 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #23 from Dan Blum comment from Dan Blum on 28.Dec.04 I would look at that, but I am somewhat hampered by not having a Mac available (Safari isn't available for Windows, right?).

Looking at the page source, I don't see anything that would make the comments pages in general act differently from the main page - the "Commercial Airspace" appears on the main page as well, with the same "sidetitle" class, and all other salient features look the same to my (undereducated) eye. Do the other comments pages look wacky in Safari, or just this one?

]]> <p>Posted December 28, 2004 9:47 AM by Dan Blum</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71850 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71850 Tue, 28 Dec 2004 09:47:30 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #24 from Tracina comment from Tracina on 28.Dec.04 I'm not getting the same problem Jurie is; all the pages look fine to me now.

]]> <p>Posted December 28, 2004 10:52 AM by Tracina</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71853 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71853 Tue, 28 Dec 2004 10:52:00 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #25 from Dan Blum comment from Dan Blum on 28.Dec.04 That, combined with Jean's comment above, leads me to think that one of the ads is wider than the others and is causing Safari to choke. This is assuming that the ads are chosen randomly for display, so that different users will see different sets - if that's not the case, then never mind.

]]> <p>Posted December 28, 2004 11:47 AM by Dan Blum</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71854 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71854 Tue, 28 Dec 2004 11:47:03 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #26 from Jacob Sommer comment from Jacob Sommer on 29.Dec.04 Oddly enough I haven't had that problem myself at any point prior to this. Just a data point.

]]> <p>Posted December 29, 2004 6:15 PM by Jacob Sommer</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71902 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#71902 Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:15:09 -0500 Technical problem, sigh -- comment #27 from Xopher finds more maddog spam comment from Xopher finds more maddog spam on 24.Jan.05 ...

]]> <p>Posted January 24, 2005 10:28 AM by Xopher finds more maddog spam</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#73133 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/005971.html#73133 Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:28:18 -0500