Making Light :: Jingoistic yahoos :: comments http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#comments Language, fraud, folly, truth, history, and knitting. Et cetera. en Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:23:59 -0500 http://www.sixapart.com/movabletype/?v=4.34-en Jingoistic yahoos Believe it or not, some gaggle of idiots is trying to drum up support for the idea that since the... Believe it or not, some gaggle of idiots is trying to drum up support for the idea that since the... http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html Jingoistic yahoos -- comment #1 from david comment from david on 19.Mar.03 i thought that about the flag burning amendment folks as well.

]]> <p>Posted March 19, 2003 1:23 PM by david</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17422 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17422 Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:23:59 -0500 Jingoistic yahoos -- comment #2 from David Moles comment from David Moles on 19.Mar.03 Since most of the western United States was bought from the French, maybe we should send it back, too. (Of course, our refund would only be worth about $180 million at today's prices, but with all these tax cuts, we need to take what we can get.)

]]> <p>Posted March 19, 2003 1:31 PM by David Moles</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17423 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17423 Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:31:06 -0500 Jingoistic yahoos -- comment #3 from Jon comment from Jon on 19.Mar.03 Looking at the signatures, I find myself no longer worried.

]]> <p>Posted March 19, 2003 1:43 PM by Jon</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17424 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17424 Wed, 19 Mar 2003 13:43:31 -0500 Jingoistic yahoos -- comment #4 from Stefan Jones comment from Stefan Jones on 19.Mar.03 In addition to the xenophobia, there's an abuse of language issue here:

I'm sick and tired of people sticking "Liberty," "Patriot," and "Freedom" on any goddamn thing.

I mean, jeeze, the current security crackdown has been labeled "Operation Liberty Shield."

Cripes for dumb. I suppose war protesters will soon be restrained with "Liberty Shackles" or somesuch rot.

]]> <p>Posted March 19, 2003 3:31 PM by Stefan Jones</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17435 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17435 Wed, 19 Mar 2003 15:31:28 -0500 Jingoistic yahoos -- comment #5 from David D. Levine comment from David D. Levine on 19.Mar.03 Well, according to the GiveItBack.net web site, "[the] Statue of Liberty... is one of the most universal symbols of political freedom and democracy... Now it is time to give it back!"

That statement could be taken in two ways. Frankly, I've said the same myself. Since we obviously aren't interested in freedom and democracy any more, we might as well send the Statue of Liberty back to someplace that still cares about those principles.

Of course, the line "Boycott the French & Contact Chirac" on the same page rather argues that their intended interpretation is not the same as mine...

]]> <p>Posted March 19, 2003 3:56 PM by David D. Levine</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17440 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17440 Wed, 19 Mar 2003 15:56:45 -0500 Jingoistic yahoos -- comment #6 from Diana comment from Diana on 19.Mar.03 I love the mix of comments, some are serious, some think this is a satire. . .
"this is the funniest satire . . .this is a satire, right?"

]]> <p>Posted March 19, 2003 4:04 PM by Diana</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17441 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17441 Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:04:35 -0500 Jingoistic yahoos -- comment #7 from Kate Nepveu comment from Kate Nepveu on 19.Mar.03 I can't tell if it's serious or a satire, either. However, the online petition site (a third-party) is no longer showing who signed anything, so I can't tell what prompted Jon's remark...

]]> <p>Posted March 19, 2003 4:34 PM by Kate Nepveu</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17445 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17445 Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:34:13 -0500 Jingoistic yahoos -- comment #8 from Mary Kay comment from Mary Kay on 19.Mar.03 Much of the American public seems not to understand symbols. Particularly the difference between symbols and the actual thing symbollized.

MKK

]]> <p>Posted March 19, 2003 4:36 PM by Mary Kay</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17446 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17446 Wed, 19 Mar 2003 16:36:06 -0500 Jingoistic yahoos -- comment #9 from Lois Fundis comment from Lois Fundis on 19.Mar.03 According to the TV news item mentioned on their site (maybe it wasn't there when you looked) this Josh Wander is from White Oak, Pennsylvania, a small town southeast of Pittsburgh (it's on the county line between Allegheny and Westmoreland counties, and only a couple of miles from where I grew up). And he seems to be more or less serious, but at least not about sending the Statue back! He tells WTAE-TV (Channel 4 to people from our neck of the woods):
"Most people think it's a crazy idea and it is, I admit. But this crazy idea is necessary at this point in order to give such a strong response to France," he said.

]]> <p>Posted March 19, 2003 5:41 PM by Lois Fundis</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17456 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17456 Wed, 19 Mar 2003 17:41:32 -0500 Jingoistic yahoos -- comment #10 from Erik V. Olson comment from Erik V. Olson on 19.Mar.03
Actually, I don't think we should give it back -- I think France should come and take it back. The ideals the Statue of Liberty symbolizes have been categorically rejected by the ruling party of this country, and if I were Chirac, I'd *insist* that the US return or destroy the Statue, rather that letting it stand while mocking and trampling over everything the Statue stood for.

]]> <p>Posted March 19, 2003 6:16 PM by Erik V. Olson</p> http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17460 http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/002461.html#17460 Wed, 19 Mar 2003 18:16:39 -0500 Jingoistic yahoos -- comment #11 from James D. Macdonald COMMENT SPAM comment from James D. Macdonald COMMENT SPAM on 17.Dec.03 Ad for drugs.

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